ABC kids show where RuPaul’s drag race star Courtney Act talks to children sparks debate

An ABC segment where a drag queen talks to children about gender identity has sparked a huge debate online – with some irate viewers accusing the broadcaster of ‘grooming’ youngsters while others praised the show for being ‘inclusive’.

Courtney Act, whose real name is Shane Jenek, appeared in the social media series ‘Little Kids, Big Talk’, which was uploaded to the public broadcaster’s Community Facebook page on Friday.

In a segment called ‘kids ask about gender’, primary school-aged children asked the RuPaul’s Drag Race star a series of questions about preferred pronouns, and whether people treat them differently depending on how they are dressed.

One girl asked: ‘Do you like being called a boy or a girl?’

Pictured: Courtney Act at the premiere of RuPaul’s Drag Race Down Under at Sydney Opera House on April 30

‘I don’t really mind,’ they replied.

‘I find that as long as people are being kind and polite, then that is what is important. And I always find that whatever someone tells you that they want to be called, it’s always best to listen to them and call them the name that they want to be called.’ 

A boy then asked whether people treat them differently when they’re dressed as Shane, compared to when they’re dressed as Courtney.

‘They do actually, it’s quite interesting because when I am dressed up as Shane … I present looking like a boy and people treat me differently,’ they said. 

Pictured: Courtney Act speaking with a young girl about gender identity. The girl asked: 'Why are all drag queens so beautiful?'

Pictured: Courtney Act speaking with a young girl about gender identity. The girl asked: ‘Why are all drag queens so beautiful?’

Pictured: Shane Jenek poses in the GAY TIMES Honours 500 studio at Magazine London

Pictured: Shane Jenek poses in the GAY TIMES Honours 500 studio at Magazine London

‘Regardless of how I look, the world looks the same to me, but sometimes people look differently and react differently to me depending on how I’m dressed.’

The 39-year-old was also asked about life growing up as a boy who preferred dancing and singing over football.

‘I was a young boy and people told me that boys should look or act or even feel a certain way and I always enjoyed more of the things that the girls liked when I was at school,’ they said. 

‘The world is changing and people are coming to understand that everybody, regardless of your body parts, should be able to do whatever they want to do.’ 

Courtney Act (pictured) spoke with children about gender identity on the ABC in an online segment

Courtney Act (pictured) spoke with children about gender identity on the ABC in an online segment

Courtney Act's real name is Shane Jenek (pictured). They have referred to themselves as 'gender fluid' in the past

Courtney Act’s real name is Shane Jenek (pictured). They have referred to themselves as ‘gender fluid’ in the past

One little girl also asked: ‘Why are all drag queens so beautiful?’

They said, ‘that’s a very lovely compliment’.

‘The cool thing about drag is that it’s about expressing how you feel, and that there’s something really beautiful about people being themselves.’ 

Some viewers slammed the ABC for exposing young children to something as complex as gender identity, but others said the segment was ‘beautiful’.

‘What adults do in their own personal lives is their business and I have no issue, however, to push the ‘queer’ agenda is fundamentally wrong on so many levels towards our children,’ one man wrote.

But someone replied the segment was trying to teach kids to be tolerant of others.

Pictured: Courtney Act poses alongside a Whippy Van as part of W Hotels Mardi Gras media call at North Bondi Surf Live Saving Club on February 26, 2021

Pictured: Courtney Act poses alongside a Whippy Van as part of W Hotels Mardi Gras media call at North Bondi Surf Live Saving Club on February 26, 2021

‘My grandchildren are exposed to this type of education and are developing into tolerant, non judgmental people who can accept that not everyone is going to be created in the same mold,’ he said.

‘It’s not something that comes easily if they reach adulthood to discover this, as most of us have done.’

Another outraged viewer wrote: ‘A disgrace how purity of children is corrupted by media.’

Someone else said: Disgraceful ABC! Sends kids to sexualised website! If this is not grooming, what is? Madness!’ 

But others applauded the broadcaster for its willingness to explain complex issues about gender identity to children.

‘We watched this on the weekend! Beautiful,’ one viewer wrote.

‘I love Courtney, great person to do this,’ shared another.

‘Freaking love how we are normalising gender fluidity for the younger generation,’ one woman wrote. ‘Courtney looks absolutely gorgeous and those kids are really open minded! Great to see.’ 

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