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Heritier Lumumba ducks Nathan Buckley’s challenge to release full audio of secretly-made recordings

Former Collingwood premiership player Heritier Lumumba has ducked a challenge from Nathan Buckley to release his secretly-made recordings of their angry meetings in full, saying he no longer took orders from the former Magpies coach and that he was instead committed to ‘my truth’.

Lumumba released the explosive audio clips on Twitter on Tuesday evening, in which he was heard complaining to Buckley about his treatment at the club, saying he had been ostracised for speaking out about then club president Eddie McGuire’s role in a racial controversy involving Sydney great Adam Goodes.

In the audio, Buckley could be heard telling Lumumba he had gone ‘rogue’, had thrown McGuire ‘under a bus’ and questioned whether he had the best interests of the club at heart.

 In response to the leak, Buckley publicly challenged Lumumba to release the secret recordings in full to give proper context to the selective grabs.

Heritier Lumumba (pictured with Shae McNamara) has released secretly-recorded audio of his confrontational meetings with then Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley, but has refused a challenge to issue it in full for proper context.

 However Lumumba refused that challenge on Wednesday.

‘I have not released the full versions because it would be countless hours,’ Lumumba said in an interview with ABC television from Los Angeles.

‘What I would say to Nathan Buckley is that this is not a football match – I stopped  taking orders from Nathan Buckley a very long time ago.

‘So I will share my truth as I see fit.’

Lumumba said he had many more secretly-made recordings of interviews with other Collingwood and AFL officials.

‘I can say that for the last decade of my interactions that I have had within the AFL  system that I protected my legal rights because of the experiences that I have gone through,’ Lumumba said.

‘So, yes, there is a lot that includes conversations that I have had with Nathan  Buckley and there is a lot that includes conversations with other people.’

 Lumumba, who has long complained of racism at Collingwood and more broadly within the AFL, said the club’s Do Better report on the issue did not go far enough.

‘What I have seen is a continuation of their misconduct, a continuation of dishonesty  and also a continuation of damage control and looking to push out an image that is not based in the reality that they are conducting themselves behind closed doors,’ Lumumba said.

‘Collingwood Football Club will always remain a club that is associated with racism.’

It has been eight years since Lumumba left Collingwood, but his campaign against the club continued this week both with the audio release and accusations that hard-core pornography was used in a team meeting, and a picture put on a noticeboard mocking gay people. 

‘There are other versions of the truth that are a long way away from the way that he perceives it,’ Buckley said in response on SEN radio on Monday.

Buckley, pictured with ex-partner Alex Pike, was heard in the meeting saying Lumumba had gone rogue, conducting crusades and questioned whether he had the best interests of the club at heart.

Buckley, pictured with ex-partner Alex Pike, was heard in the meeting saying Lumumba had gone rogue, conducting crusades and questioned whether he had the best interests of the club at heart.

The audio recordings come from 2014 – Lumumba’s last season with the Magpies – and addressed public comments that the defender had made about McGuire’s involvement in the controversy surrounding Adam Goodes.

After Goodes had called out a Collingwood fan for a racist comment at a game, McGuire made a comment on radio that the Swans star should be used to promote the King Kong musical.

Lumumba had gone to Collingwood’s media department requesting permission to comment publicly and that was granted, but said the club was taken aback that he criticised the club president’s statement rather than supporting it.

In the audio recording, Buckley says to Lumumba: ‘You threw him under the bus, mate.’

Lumumba intervenes: ‘I didn’t throw him under the bus, and we can’t go through that again.

Heritier Lumumba has released audio footage of an explosive row with Nathan Buckley

Heritier Lumumba has released audio footage of an explosive row with Nathan Buckley

‘This is part of my issue, because you still believe that, and that’s what hurts me so much Bucks, and I know you’ve carried it this whole time.’

Buckley replies: ‘What the whole thing comes back to is, do you actually think about the best interests of the football club?

‘You’ve become a bit of a rogue and you might call it leadership but you’ve basically gone on your own …. crusades at times.’

The former Collingwood coach is heard slamming Lumumba for 'throwing Eddie McGuire under the bus' over his response to the 'King Kong' row

The former Collingwood coach is heard slamming Lumumba for ‘throwing Eddie McGuire under the bus’ over his response to the ‘King Kong’ row

Fox Sports report that Buckley was not aware that his conversation with Lumumba was recorded, and the former coach replied to the 35-year-old’s Twitter thread demanding he release the ‘full and uncut’ version of the audio clip.

‘Heritier, I offer you the opportunity to put a full and uncut version of our conversations on public record so as to provide context to our conversations and the support that was provided to you above and beyond that which could be reasonably expected in the circumstances.’ 

Lumumba’s latest revelation comes after he unearthed evidence contained in a document he was going to present to the Magpies as part of the club’s ‘Do Better’ report into racism. 

Lumumba posted a lengthy thread on Twitter and Buckley has demanded the former footy star release the 'full and uncut' version of the conversation

Lumumba posted a lengthy thread on Twitter and Buckley has demanded the former footy star release the ‘full and uncut’ version of the conversation

One of the ex-star’s most startling claims is that an assistant coach showed players a pornographic photo during a team meeting.

‘One of the team rules was to ‘come forward’, so he showed an image of a group of about five or more men ejaculating on a woman’s face with the words ‘come forward’ as a caption,’ Lumumba wrote.

‘Nathan Buckley was the head coach and seemed unfazed by it all.’

Buckley said on Monday: ‘The club have, from my understanding tried to work with Héritier and other Indigenous players, who have been part of systemic racism situations over the course of the club’s history. 

‘I am happy to engage with the club however they wish, but Héritier hasn’t been satisfied with that and that’s why we are where we’re at.

‘It seems that Héritier doesn’t really want to move forward unless, I don’t know, he needs heads to roll. I don’t know exactly what he’s looking for, or what his requirements are to feel like he has been heard, because that is really what we have tried to do.

‘He has been apologised to – I’ve apologised to him, the club has apologised to him … for the environment that he’s been in – and not just Héritier – but the other Indigenous players.

‘Other areas when we talk about – misogyny, homophobia, those cultural aspects of an organisation – football clubs have come a long way. We’re talking about things that have happened 10 to 15 years ago, and when you remove context and bring it into the current day, it sounds even more abhorrent than it would have been then.’ 



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