An extraordinary live TV bust up between two proud Welshmen was sparked when an EU supporter said Brexiteers in their country were just like ‘turkeys voting for Christmas’.
Viewers were enthralled by the row in Pontyclun and said it epitomises the bitter rift in Britain between those who want Brexit and those demanding a second referendum.
The BBC went to Rhondda Cynon Taff in South Wales, where 52.5 per cent voted to leave the EU and 47.5 per cent voted to stay, to gauge how voters reacted to Theresa May’s Commons defeat.
But the two shoppers they found quickly fell out when the Remainer said local Leavers was just ‘like Turkeys voting for Christmas’ because ‘people who live in the Valleys are getting more from the EU than anybody else.’
The ardent Brexiteer then shot back: ‘Don’t call people from the Valleys turkeys. I’m a Valley boy’.
He added there should be ‘no fear’ of quitting the EU without a deal on March 29 because ‘this country fought a world war – we raised from the ashes – we don’t need Europe’.
The extraordinary live TV bust up was sparked when an EU supporter said Brexiteers were just like ‘Turkeys voting for Christmas’
A Brexiteer (left) was outraged by the comparison by his foe (right in red) and was offended because he is from the Valleys
The remainer said he was saying that the voters were ‘like turkeys’ – not actual turkeys
The Leaver took exception to the slight on Valley boys who decided it would be best if Britain left the EU
BBC Wales published the video online and admitted it was a serious ‘Brexit ding-dong’
The warring pair have already been compared to Brenda from Bristol, a 75-year-old who became an unexpected celebrity in 2017 when she exclaimed on live TV: ‘Oh no, not another one’ when told Theresa May was calling a snap election – summing up most of the country’s reaction to the news.
The row on BBC Wales broadcast today began when the Leaver told the reporter: ‘We’ve had a referendum. The vote was conclusive’, when his Remainer rival said ’52/48, conclusive?’, he shot back: ‘That’s democracy. It could have been one vote it doesn’t matter’.
He added: ‘The decision has been made. We’ve had 40 years to sort this out supposedly. Nothing has improved. We’re bailing them [the EU] out all the time’.
The Remainer then sparked another outburst from his foe by saying: ‘I totally disagree. If you look at Wales, it amazes me that the people in the valleys, who are getting more from the EU than anybody else, actually voted to come out’.
Then sparks flew as he said: ‘It’s like turkeys voting for Christmas.’
His irate rival said: ‘Don’t call people from the Valleys turkeys. I’m from the Valleys and born and bred in the mining industry’.
The journalist then steps in as the Brexiteer criticises the BBC and says: ‘Hold on what’s wrong with having a second vote’.
The Brexit-backer replied: ‘What if it went 52-48 the other way. Do we have another referendum?’.
Confronting the Remainer directly he then asks him: ‘Why are you afraid of a no-deal? This fear project that they’ve got, don’t worry about it. Britain has got the technology, the ability and the people to rebuild. We don’t need Europe.’
Brenda from Bristol, 75, who became an unexpected celebrity in 2017 when she exclaimed: ‘Oh no, not another one’ when told Theresa May was calling a snap election
The TV row came as the EU twisted the knife today after Theresa May fell to a humiliating defeat on the Brexit deal – with Michel Barnier urging her to drop ‘red lines’.
The Prime Minister has been left scrambling to find a way forward after suffered the biggest Commons loss ever for a government, with an extraordinary 118 Tories rebelling against the plan.
A clearly shattered Mrs May also faces a no-confidence battle tonight, after Jeremy Corbyn insisted the government had come to the ‘end of the line’ and demanded an election.
The escape routes for the premier appear to be closing, with the EU signalled a tough line. A senior German minister this morning dismissed the prospect of delaying Article 50 unless there is a clear ‘path’ for getting an agreement implemented.
And the EU’s chief negotiator Mr Barnier goaded Mrs May by demanding she respond by abandoning her long-standing negotiation positions, such as ending free movement, ruling out a permanent customs union, and ending the jurisdiction of EU law.
While saying he was ‘sad’ the deal had been rejected, Mr Barnier suggested the defeat was an ‘opportunity’ to stay more closely aligned with the EU.
The call for softer Brexit came amid mounting splits in the Cabinet over what to do in the wake of the catastrophic failure in Parliament last night.
Theresa May was humbled in the Commons and looked dejected as the scale of her defeat by 230 votes was reveale
Commons Leader Andrea Leadsom, a leading Eurosceptic, insisted this morning that the Brexit date must not be delayed beyond the end of March. But Chancellor Philip Hammond is said to have suggested to business leaders in a phone call last night that Article 50 would be extended and the government was entering a ‘new era’ in its approach.
More than a third of the parliamentary party, joined forces with Labour to sink Mrs May’s withdrawal agreement by 432 votes to 202 – a majority of 230 – on a dramatic day at Westminster.
Moments after the result was announced Mr Corbyn announced he would table a no-confidence motion, which MPs will vote on tonight, in a bid to force a general election.
But the PM’s Northern Irish allies, and Brexiteers such as Boris Johnson Jacob Rees-Mogg have all pledged to support her, meaning she is likely to survive.