The widow of legendary broadcaster Fred Rogers has opened up about her appreciation of Lady Gaga, her dislike of ‘itchy’ sweaters, fondness of emojis and how Trump drives her to be political.
Joanne Rogers, 91, spent 50 years married to the popular American television personality, who died at the age of 74 in early 2003. The story of her husband’s encounter with a cynical investigative journalist in 1998 forms the basis of a recently-released film: ‘A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood‘.
The journalist, Tom Junod, met with Mr Rogers (played by Tom Hanks in the film) to try and find the darker side of the notoriously cheerful public persona. Instead, he found a life-long pen pal and friend.
Joanne Rogers, wife of Fred Rogers, on the set of Mister Rogers Neighborhood – which the legendary broadcaster was a host of
Ahead of this month’s film premiere in Rogers’ native Pittsburgh, where much of the movie was shot, Mrs Rogers met with Los Angeles Times film, celebrity and pop culture writer Amy Kaufman.
The pair had developed a friendship, ever since Ms Kaufman first interviewed her in a brief 20 minute phone conversation last year.
Mrs Rogers, with a tech savageness that belies many a nonagenarian, tracked the writer’s email address down kindling a sense of camaraderie between the two.
The former concert pianist, who spent much of her life (happily) in the shadows of her well-known husband, revealed her fondness for pet names, frequently referring to Ms Kaufman as ‘dear, dearie, dearest and honeybun’.
She book-ended her emails with ‘sent from my iPhone’ with red and pink heart emojis.
She sends the emails from her Macbook Air – the same device she uses to keep ‘up-to-date’ with the latest pop culture.
‘The movie stars all look alike to me now. I can remember their names — Aniston and this one and that one. I still haven’t figured out what it is that Kardashian does,’ she tells Ms Kaufman.
‘What I’ve enjoyed most is Lady Gaga and what she’s done with her talent. How she can do anything she wants by just being crazy, funny-looking in outfits, you know? I think that is really smart.’
In text messages she’d use her own avatar, a ‘Memoji’ complete with the same curly mop of gray hair that adorns the widow’s own head, glasses and even the gap between her front teeth.
And when, a year on after their first correspondence, the two women finally met Ms Kaufman found the elderly woman to be just as warm in person.
Joanne Rogers, wife of the late Fred Rogers speaks onstage at the ‘Daniel Tiger’s Neighborhood’ panel during day 2 of the PBS portion of the 2012 Summer TCA Tour held at the Beverly Hilton Hotel on July 22, 2012
The writer described the woman who greeted her from the door of her Schenley Park home of 38 years as someone lithe on her feet with a sharp mind, and fondness for hugs.
‘I’m a hugger,’ she tells Ms Kaufman as she gives her a hug, the second one within minutes of meeting in their first real-life encounter.
‘I felt so badly for [Joe] Biden when they were going at him about hugging. I said, ‘My gosh, I hug everybody.’ I know lots of men who hug people. He’s an old man. He’s a hugger from way back.’
As they step into the apartment that Mrs Rogers has lived in since her husband’s death, from stomach cancer 16 years ago, it is clear Fred Rogers’ memory lives on.
Reminders of their life, their love, and his place in the public eye are dotted throughout their once shared space. Magazine covers with his name, framed and faded family photos and endless awards that Mrs Rogers no longer remembers what they were for.
A tote bag hanging off her favorite chair holds most of the letters from their early years dating.
When she wants to feel close to her husband she grabs one just to feel close to him.
But despite her clear love for the man she married over half a century ago, Mrs Rogers has no desire to see him put on a pedestal beyond anyone’s reach.
When a new line of Mister Rogers sweaters came out, she told me the writer they sound comfortable but she had no desire to get one: ‘I’m very warm-natured and sweaters make me too hot and itchy.’
This image released by Sony Pictures shows Tom Hanks as Mister Rogers in a scene from ‘A Beautiful Day In the Neighborhood,’ in theaters on November 22
She told movie-makers not to allow actor Tom Hanks to turn him into a saint.
‘He’s out there now as somebody who’s somehow way above all the rest of us,’ she said. ‘People invariably say, ‘Well, I can’t do that, but I sure do admire him. I would love to do it.’ Well, you can do it. I’m convinced there are lots of Fred Rogerses out there,’ she told the writer.
Aside from this request, there was little else Mrs Rogers, a key figure in the development of the Marielle Heller-directed film, asked the movie creators to do.
There was the moment Maryann Plunkett who plays here in the film shouted: ‘watch out, buster!’
‘And I’ve never in my life said ‘buster’ to anybody,’ she said with a laugh.
And while the film gives a good window into aspects of their life, Mrs Rogers said not everything made it in – in particular her husband’s tendency to crack the odd dirty joke or two.
If the couple was out at an event that turned out to be bland, he had a go-to way of making her laugh: passing gas.
‘He would just raise one cheek and he would look at me and smile,’ she said, cracking herself up.
‘He was not prissy. Not at all,’ she said. ‘He ran around the house in the droopiest drawers. They were at least three sizes too big but they were comfortable, and he liked them.
‘It didn’t matter if there was company here — he’d wear those and a T-shirt. He was not a modest person.’
Fred Rogers puts on his jacket between takes on the set of his television program in 1993
One thing he did keep on the down low was his political and religious leanings.
Mrs Rogers described her husband, an ordained Presbyterian minister, as someone who felt being impartial was important and for this reason he never talked about religion on his program.
A registered Republican she said he was ‘very independent’ in the way he voted.
‘But he just didn’t talk about it because he didn’t want to lose the children,’ she said.
When Fred was alive, she said she felt an obligation to keep her political leanings private – but in recent years this has changed.
Mrs Rogers still doesn’t know who she’s going to vote for in 2020, but said she’s more political now than she’s ever been.
‘Trump changed it,’ she said. ‘And I want to vote for whoever is going to beat Trump.’
While her husband was still alive, Ms Rogers was largely in the shadows. An accomplished concert pianist in her own right she never resented his fame and chose instead to focus on her art and out of his limelight.
Joanne Rogers attends a special screening of ‘Won’t You Be My Neighbor?’ on May 23, 2018 in West Homestead, Pennsylvania
Since his death, however, she is one of the primary stewards of her late husband’s legacy – the chair emerita of Fred Rogers Productions and the Honorary Chair of the Fred Rogers Center for Early Learning & Children’s Media on the Saint Vincent College campus.
On the 50th anniversary of his seminal kids program in 2019, she participated in a PBS special about Fred, helped to promote a commemorative postage stamp with his face on it and was also part of Morgan Neville’s hit documentary ‘Won’t You Be My Neighbor?’
At the movie’s premiere, her work and place as Fred Rogers’ wife earned her a standing ovation, as she entered the auditorium.
At the end of the screening well-wishers flocked around her – including Mayor Bill Peduto – before she was taken to a waiting car that would escort her home at the end of what had been a long and eventful day.
Ms Kaufman followed behind, ‘not ready to say goodbye’.
‘I love you,’ she told the writer as they hugged again. ‘Bless your heart.