President Obama’s Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius doled out blame to both Bill and Hillary Clinton for their treatment of the ex-president’s alleged victims who accused the Democrat of sexual misdeeds.
‘Not only did people look the other way, but they went after the women who came forward and accused him,’ Sebelius pointed out to David Axelrod, also Obama administration alumni. ‘And so it doubled down on not only bad behavior, but abusive behavior, and then people attacked the victims.’
Axelrod, in an interview with Sebelius for his podcast, the Axe Files, then asked Sebelius a so-called delicate question: ‘Was that fair criticism of Hillary that she participated in that effort?’
Former Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius talked about how when Bill Clinton was accused of sexual misdeeds ‘people … went after the women who came forward and accused him’
Kathleen Sebelius said ‘absolutely’ it was fair that people criticized Hillary Clinton (right) for helping her husband Bill Clinton (left) lead smear attacks against his accusers
Kathleen Sebelius sat down for an interview with David Axelrod (pictured), who also worked for President Obama, for an episode of his podcast, the Axe Files
Kathleen Sebelus (right) flanked by former President Obama (middle) and Vice President Biden (left) said what happened to Bill Clinton’s accusers ‘shouldn’t ever happen again’
‘Absolutely,’ she said, not skipping a beat. ‘I think it’s fair.’
‘And that shouldn’t happen ever again,’ Sebelius made known.
Sebelius noted that the same criticism would be fair today, if Hillary again aided in a smear campaign, though she also noted that she wasn’t sure if impeaching Bill Clinton had been the appropriate punishment.
The two Obama administration officials had gotten on the topic of the previous Democratic administration when Axelrod talked about a conversation he had had with a friend about Americans who voted for Donald Trump.
‘You know, I was arguing with a friend who said, “How can you, how can people have voted for Donald Trump after that Access Hollywood tape?” And I had to be honest and I said, “Look, I voted for Bill Clinton twice,”‘ Axelrod recalled.
‘And I think he was a really fine president, a brilliant guy, committed public servant, but I knew, everyone in politics knew about his behavior,’ Obama’s former senior adviser admitted.
‘And we looked the other way and I think there’s a lot of soul-searching to be done,’ Axelrod added.
Axelrod, now based back in Chicago, also pointed out that sexual harassment and assault was not some sort of ‘partisan defect,’ as men on both sides of the aisle have been abusers.
The two prominent Democrats, however, turned to the accusations over Minnesota Sen. Al Franken’s behavior, a prominent member of their part.
‘Now we see the Al Franken situation,’ mused Axelrod. ‘All of it is bad, but is all of it equal?’
Sebelius suggested that it wasn’t and that’s in part because of how Franken reacted once the first charges came out, that he had groped and kissed a woman without her permission.
‘Franken has done something different than some of the other males involved,’ she began. ‘He first of all admitted behavior and apologized but immediately asked for an ethics investigation on himself.’
Bringing back up Clinton’s behavior, Sebelius suggested that this was a start.
‘He stepped forward immediately and did it, most of the others who have been accused have followed a very different path and it’s a path that looks a lot more like what Bill Clinton did,’ the former HHS secretary noted.