Immediately after white nationalist Richard Spencer sat down with ANTIFA member Lacy MacAuley, their meeting was off to a rocky start.
As MacAuley challenged Spencer on beliefs she said equated to ‘policies of genocide’, Spencer’s main retort was that ANTIFA members smelled bad.
‘I could smell the ANTIFA activists from yards away,’ he claims during the tense clip, filmed for ABC’s 20/20.
‘The foul stench of never bathing.’
MacAuley refused to shake Spencer’s hand when they first met and said she would not condemn the notorious moment Spencer was punched on Inauguration Day.
Richard Spencer sat down with ANTIFA member Lacy MacAuley, and she made her feelings for him clear from the start when she refused to shake his hand
As MacAuley challenged Spencer on beliefs she said equated to ‘policies of genocide’, Spencer’s main retort was that he could smell ANTIFA members ‘from yards away’
‘A punch in the face is a punch in the face,’ ABC anchor Tom Llamas, who was moderating the meeting, tells her.
‘Genocide is genocide,’ she retorts. ‘I’m sorry but I don’t think anyone has sympathy for people who are actually advocating policies of genocide.’
‘I’m not,’ Spencer interjects.
‘You would like a white homeland,’ MacAuley shoots back. ‘And to me, that says genocide.’
‘People are going to suffer, people are going to die. I have no respect for that mentality.’
‘I don’t want anyone to die,’ Spencer says.
But even as Spencer blamed ANTIFA for violence that has broken out between the groups, he proudly claimed the white nationalists would punch back harder.
MacAuley also said she would not condemn the notorious moment Spencer was punched on Inauguration Day
ABC anchor Tom Llamas told MacAuley that a ‘punch in the face is a punch in the face’, in reference to the clip, but she shot back: ‘Genocide is genocide’
‘We’re never going to win by unilaterally disarming ourselves,’ he said.
‘We’re going to win when they know if they punch us, we’re going to punch them back so hard they never knew what was coming.’
It was a statement that confused Llamas, who pointed out that ‘winning’ to the white nationalists essentially meant America would become a ‘white nation’.
‘Isn’t that, excuse me for using the phrase, a BS argument,’ Llamas interjects.
‘Because the goal is an all-white homeland. That is the goal. How do you do that within the laws in the United States?’
‘This is a big ideal for the future,’ Spencer replies.
But the reality of the violence the white nationalist and Nazi movement could bring to America became apparent last Saturday in Charlottesville, Virginia.
As Spencer claimed most of the violence was caused by ANTIFA, he then boldly claimed that the white supremacists would punch back so hard ‘they never knew what was coming’
Racist violence erupted in the quiet college town as white supremacists clashed with counter-protesters that left one woman dead.
Hundreds of people gathered for a peaceful candlelight vigil and march just four days after the horrific demonstration.
Mourners were heard singing ‘The Battle Hymn of the Republic’, ‘This Land Is Your Land’, and other songs during the emotional vigil paying tribute to Heather Heyer.
The 32-year-old paralegal died last Saturday after she was struck by a car driven by accused white supremacist James Fields while she was protesting the rally.
Fields, a 20-year-old Ohio man, has been charged with her murder.
The huge crowd marched along the same path that white supremacists took on Friday with Tiki torches on the University of Virginia Campus in Charlottesville.
White supremacists stormed Charlottesville, Virginia on Friday night in what would kick off a day of horrifying violence in the quiet college down
Hundreds of people gathered for a peaceful candlelight vigil and march just four days after the horrific demonstration, which left one woman dead
Heyer was among the hundreds of protesters who had gathered Saturday in Charlottesville to decry what was believed to be the largest gathering of white supremacists in a decade – including neo-Nazis, skinheads and Ku Klux Klan members.
They descended on the city for a rally prompted by the city’s decision to remove a Confederate monument of General Robert E. Lee.
James Fields Jr, 20, was charged with second-degree murder after ramming his car into a crowd of counter-protestors
Chaos and violence erupted before the event even began, with counter-demonstrators and rally-goers clashing in the streets.
Authorities forced the crowd to disperse, and groups then began roaming through town.
Counter-protesters had converged for a march along a downtown street when suddenly a Dodge Challenger barreled into them, hurling people into the air. Video shows the car reversing and hitting more people.
Police said 20-year-old Fields took dead aim at the counter-protesters with his car, slamming into them.
The Ohio native was arrested a short time later and appeared in court by video monitor from the Albemarle Charlottesville regional jail on Monday.
The judge charged him with one count of murder, for the death of Heyer and three counts of malicious wounding, as well as one charge of hit and run.
‘Fractured America: Extremism in the Streets’ airs on ’20/20′ Friday, August 18 on ABC.
Counter-protester Heather Heyer, 32, was killed after she was struck by a car driven by the accused white supremacist (pictured is her mother Susan Bro at her memorial service)