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Covid UK: TalkRadio urgently seeks answers from Google after its YouTube channel was shut down

Google has shut down TalkRadio’s YouTube channel amid claims the broadcaster ‘violated’ the website’s ‘community guidelines’ by airing criticism of coronavirus lockdowns.  

News UK, which owns the radio station, is urgently seeking a full explanation from the tech giant about the ‘nature of the breach’ that led to the account being removed from its platform. 

In what appears to be an extraordinary clampdown, Google terminated the station’s YouTube channel at around 1am, reportedly for violating its ‘community guidelines’, according to Guido Fawkes.

MailOnline contacted Google at 8am, but the tech giant has still not explained why it deleted the TalkRadio account as of 6pm. 

The move has sparked a freedom of speech backlash led by senior minister Michael Gove and actor Laurence Fox, while civil liberties groups compared Google’s ‘chilling attack’ to Chinese-style censorship.

TalkRadio presenter Julia Hartley-Brewer today denied that the broadcaster had flouted YouTube’s community guidelines, tweeting: ‘We simply challenge the evidence that lockdowns are a proportionate response to the Covid virus. It’s called free speech.’

The station has interviewed lockdown sceptics during the pandemic who doubt that massive restrictions on public life implemented by western governments can suppress the disease.  

Dissenting experts who have challenged the lockdown policy have included Oxford epidemiologist Professor Sunetra Gupta, who co-authored the anti-lockdown Great Barrington Declaration, and Irish engineer Ivor Cummins.

Some of the station’s presenters, including Ms Hartley-Brewer, Mike Graham and Dan Wootton, have  criticised government measures to slow the spread of coronavirus as excessive or ill-targeted. 

YouTube has shut down TalkRadio’s channel after the broadcaster criticised lockdowns

Mike Graham

Julia Hartley-Brewer

TalkRadio presenters including Mike Graham (left) and Julia Hartley-Brewer (right) have criticised the Government’s use of lockdowns during the pandemic

TalkRadio presenter Ms Hartley-Brewer today denied that the broadcaster had flouted YouTube's community guidelines. 'We simply challenge the evidence that lockdowns are a proportionate response to the Covid virus. It's called free speech,' she tweeted

TalkRadio presenter Ms Hartley-Brewer today denied that the broadcaster had flouted YouTube’s community guidelines. ‘We simply challenge the evidence that lockdowns are a proportionate response to the Covid virus. It’s called free speech,’ she tweeted

Lockdown sceptic Peter Hitchens said: 'Are we any longer free if this sort of thing can happen?'

Lockdown sceptic Peter Hitchens said: ‘Are we any longer free if this sort of thing can happen?’

Mr Graham has invited Mail on Sunday columnist Peter Hitchens onto his Independent Republic show every Monday for nearly a year to discuss the Government’s handling of the crisis. 

The radio station used YouTube to stream its live video content and archive old shows, and accrued tens of millions of views and 250,000 subscribers as its popularity soared last year. 

A spokesperson for TalkRadio told MailOnline: ‘We urgently await a detailed response from Google/YouTube about the nature of the breach that has led to our channel being removed from its platform.

‘TalkRadio is an Ofcom-licensed and regulated broadcaster and has robust editorial controls in place, taking care to balance debate. 

‘We regularly interrogate government data and we have controls in place, use verifiable sources and give space to a careful selection of voices and opinions.’ 

TalkRadio later tweeted a poll which asked: ‘Will Britain’s freedoms ever fully return?’ 

TalkRadio: Its owner, hosts and controversies

TalkRadio is owned by News UK and is the sister station of national radio stations TalkSport and Times Radio.

It has about 424,000 listeners, according to the latest figures from market research provider Rajar. 

Its current presenters include Mike Graham, Julia Hartley-Brewer, Dan Wootton, and Mark Dolan.

TalkRadio has courted controversy since its relaunch in 2016.

Presenter James Whale was suspended over a July 2018 interview with an alleged sex assault victim that was said by the station to have ‘completely lacked sensitivity’.

He was given a week’s suspension and his show returned soon afterwards. He apologised to the alleged victim.

Broadcast watchdog Ofcom ruled in 2019 that two episodes of ex-MP George Galloway’s show on Labour Party anti-Semitism and the Salisbury poisoning breached impartiality rules. 

Galloway was sacked by the station in June 2019 for praising Liverpool FC for winning the 2019 UEFA Champions League Final instead of Tottenham Hotspur, a team with strong links to the Jewish community. 

Last September, Mark Dolan cut up a face mask while claiming they did not have a significant impact on the spread of coronavirus.

His action sparked a protest resignation by Jamie East, while Piers Morgan called Dolan’s behaviour ‘reckless and stupid’. 

Broadcasting watchdog Ofcom, which regulates TalkRadio, said: ‘This was a decision for YouTube. 

‘Like other UK stations, TalkRadio’s radio channel comes under our Broadcasting Code. When we assess programmes under our rules, we take account of a broadcaster’s right to freedom of expression, and the right of listeners to receive information and ideas.’  

YouTube has implemented a ‘COVID-19 medical misinformation policy’ which allows it to ban ‘content that spreads medical misinformation that contradicts local health authority information or World Health Organization (WHO) medical information about COVID-19’.

Examples of content which is banned from YouTube include ‘denial that COVID-19 exists’, ‘claims that people have not died from COVID-19’, and ‘videos alleging that social distancing and self-isolation are not effective in reducing the spread of the virus’. 

It warns YouTube users that it will remove content which violates the policy and give them a warning with no penalty if it is a first-time violation.

Google has a three-strike policy where channels that break its community guidelines three times within a 90-day period can be permanently banned. 

The tech giant has previously banned conspiracy theorist David Icke and suspended One America News Network for breaches of its Covid rules. 

However, a YouTube webpage states that the video streaming site is committed to freedom of speech and freedom of expression, claiming: ‘We believe people should be able to speak freely, share opinions, foster open dialogue, and that creative freedom leads to new voices, formats and possibilities.’

It also claims: ‘We believe everyone should have easy, open access to information and that video is a powerful force for education, building understanding, and documenting world events, big and small.’

Ofcom has also pledged to crack down on coronavirus misinformation that could cause serious harm, though no TalkRadio content about the disease has been subject to investigation by the watchdog. 

Michael Gove today blasted ‘Big Tech censorship’, telling Ms Hartley-Brewer on TalkRadio that lockdown critics ‘should be heard’.

‘I don’t believe in censorship, and we have a free and fair press, and we have commentators and interviewers of distinction who do criticise the Government’s position’, the Cabinet Office minister said. 

‘I respectfully disagree with them but I think it’s important that their voices are heard and that debate takes place.’ 

Ms Hartley-Brewer later tweeted that no one at the station ‘has ever endangered any lives or worked against the NHS’, adding: ‘Free speech, debate and questioning policies that destroy lives, livelihoods and freedoms are a good thing.’

Actor Laurence Fox, who has also criticised shutdowns, warned: ‘This is just the beginning’ – in a suggestion that more online anti-lockdown rhetoric could be removed.  

Toby Young, director-general of the Free Speech Union, called Google’s move ‘an assault on the freedom of the press’. 

Civil liberties group Big Brother Watch said the removal of the channel was ‘a bold censorship move that would make China proud’.  

Director Silkie Carlo told MailOnline: ‘YouTube’s termination of TalkRadio is evidence, if needed, that Big Tech censorship is out of control. 

‘This chilling attack on a broadcaster is the type of thing you see in China. It is no coincidence that TalkRadio is one of the loudest critics of the Government’s mismanagement of the pandemic, nor that the Government is pressuring Big Tech companies to increase censorship under ‘online harms’ policies.  

TalkRadio presenter Dan Wootton has also criticised the use of shutdowns to tackle Covid

TalkRadio presenter Dan Wootton has also criticised the use of shutdowns to tackle Covid

Dissenting experts who have spoken on TalkRadio include Oxford epidemiologist Professor Sunetra Gupta, who authored the anti-lockdown Great Barrington Declaration

Dissenting experts who have spoken on TalkRadio include Oxford epidemiologist Professor Sunetra Gupta, who authored the anti-lockdown Great Barrington Declaration

Actor Laurence Fox today tweeted: 'This is just the beginning'

Actor Laurence Fox today tweeted: ‘This is just the beginning’

Triggernometry YouTube channel host Konstantin Kisin said: 'Today is the day we can all be 100% certain that free speech is over'

Triggernometry YouTube channel host Konstantin Kisin said: ‘Today is the day we can all be 100% certain that free speech is over’

‘This assault on free expression must be resisted and overturned.’ 

Triggernometry YouTube channel host Konstantin Kisin said: ‘Today is the day we can all be 100% certain that free speech is over’. 

It comes as Mr Gove today admitted there was ‘no certainty’ that the brutal squeeze imposed by Boris Johnson on England last night will be eased at the end of February as hoped.

The PM set a goal of giving first doses of vaccine to more than 13 million vulnerable people over the next seven weeks, with doubts already voiced over whether it is possible.

But Mr Gove cautioned that even in the best case scenario not ‘all’ of the curbs will go, as he braced the weary public for a long haul to combat the fast-spreading new variant of coronavirus. 

Under the new guidance, primary and secondary schools will close, with only the vulnerable and offspring of key workers allowed to go in. 

Nurseries can stay open, but university students are being told to stay at home and study remotely – while GCSE and A-level exams will not go ahead as planned. 

Non-essential retail, all hospitality, gyms and swimming pools will be ordered to close – with Rishi Sunak due to lay out another package of support today amid growing fears about the impact on the economy.

Cafes, bars and restaurants will be allowed to serve takeaway – but in a tightening from the draconian measures last spring, they will not be allowed to serve any alcohol. 

Vulnerable people are being told to shield where possible.

The public will once again only be allowed to leave home for one of five reasons: to go to work if essential, shop for necessities, exercise – allowed with one other person from another household, care for someone, or to seek medical help or flee threat such as domestic violence.

Communal worship can continue with social distancing in place.

Those who break the rules face a £200 for the first offence, doubling for further offences up to a maximum of £6,400. 

YouTube’s ‘COVID-19 Medical Misinformation Policy’

YouTube implemented a 'COVID-19 Medical Misinformation Policy' last year to remove content that 'poses a serious risk of egregious harm'

YouTube implemented a ‘COVID-19 Medical Misinformation Policy’ last year to remove content that ‘poses a serious risk of egregious harm’

YouTube implemented a ‘COVID-19 Medical Misinformation Policy’ last year to remove content that ‘poses a serious risk of egregious harm’.

The webpage on ‘community guidelines’ states that users cannot upload content which includes treatment, prevention, diagnostic or transmission misinformation. 

A YouTube channel is terminated if it accrues three Community Guidelines strikes in 90 days, or is determined to be wholly dedicated to violating our guidelines. When a channel is terminated, all of its videos are removed. 

Treatment Misinformation

YouTube counts this as content which ‘discourages someone from seeking medical treatment by encouraging the use of cures or remedies to treat COVID-19’.

Examples include: 

  • Content that encourages the use of home remedies in place of medical treatment such as consulting a doctor or going to the hospital;
  • Content that encourages the use of prayer or rituals in place of medical treatment;
  • Content that claims that there’s a guaranteed cure for COVID-19;
  • Claims about COVID-19 vaccinations that contradict expert consensus from local health authorities or WHO;
  • Content that claims that any currently-available medicine prevents you from getting the coronavirus;
  • Other content that discourages people from consulting a medical professional or seeking medical advice.

Prevention Misinformation

According to YouTube, users cannot upload content which ‘promotes prevention methods that contradict local health authorities or WHO’.

This could include:

  • Claims that there is a guaranteed prevention method for COVID-19;
  • Claims that an approved COVID-19 vaccine will cause death, infertility, or contraction of other infectious diseases;
  • Claims that an approved COVID-19 vaccine will contain substances that are not on the vaccine ingredient list, such as fetal tissue;
  • Claims that an approved COVID-19 vaccine will contain substances or devices meant to track or identify those who’ve received it;
  • Claims that an approved COVID-19 vaccine will alter a person’s genetic makeup;
  • Claims that any vaccine causes contraction of COVID-19;
  • Claims that a specific population will be required (by any entity except for a government) to take part in vaccine trials or receive the vaccine first.

Diagnostic Misinformation

YouTube claims this includes content ‘that promotes diagnostic methods that contradict local health authorities or WHO’.

Transmission Misinformation

Google, which owns YouTube, states that content which ‘promotes transmission information that contradicts local health authorities or WHO’ also cannot be uploaded.

It lists as examples:

  • Content that claims that COVID-19 is not caused by a viral infection;
  • Content that claims COVID-19 is not contagious;
  • Content that claims that COVID-19 cannot spread in certain climates or geographies;
  • Content that claims that any group or individual has immunity to the virus or cannot transmit the virus;
  • Content that disputes the efficacy of local health authorities’ or WHO’s guidance on physical distancing or self-isolation measures to reduce transmission of COVID-19.

Examples of banned content

YouTube would ban videos which contain the following information:

  • Denial that COVID-19 exists Claims that people have not died from COVID-19; 
  • Claims that any vaccine is a guaranteed prevention method for COVID-19; 
  • Claims that a specific treatment or medicine is a guaranteed cure for COVID-19; 
  • Claims that certain people have immunity to COVID-19 due to their race or nationality; 
  • Encouraging taking home remedies instead of getting medical treatment when sick; 
  • Discouraging people from consulting a medical professional if they’re sick; 
  • Content that claims that holding your breath can be used as a diagnostic test for COVID-19; 
  • Videos alleging that if you avoid Asian food, you won’t get the coronavirus; 
  • Videos alleging that setting off fireworks can clean the air of the virus and will prevent the spread of the virus;
  • Claims that COVID-19 is caused by radiation from 5G networks Videos alleging that the COVID-19 test is the cause of the virus; 
  • Claims that countries with hot climates will not experience the spread of the virus;
  • Videos alleging that social distancing and self-isolation are not effective in reducing the spread of the virus; 
  • Claims that the COVID-19 vaccine will kill people who receive it; 
  • Claims that the COVID-19 vaccine will be used as a means of population reduction;
  • Videos claiming that the COVID-19 vaccine will contain fetal tissue Claims that the flu vaccine causes contraction of COVID-19; 
  • Claims that the COVID-19 vaccine causes contraction of other infectious diseases or makes people more vulnerable to contraction of other infectious diseases; 
  • Claims that the COVID-19 vaccine will contain a microchip or tracking device.

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